tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-354069516366024003.post8850031451149909202..comments2023-12-31T04:10:49.722-08:00Comments on Antinatalism- The Greatest Taboo: Lyin' in a Demographic WinterUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-354069516366024003.post-42698878186904895292008-06-22T17:45:00.000-07:002008-06-22T17:45:00.000-07:00Will Wilkinson and Tyler Cowen have a diavlog disc...Will Wilkinson and Tyler Cowen have a diavlog discussing whether it is good to bring new people into existence here:<BR/>http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/12109TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-354069516366024003.post-74886181562775699852008-06-19T21:40:00.000-07:002008-06-19T21:40:00.000-07:00Thanks for the link, tggp. Certainly there's some ...Thanks for the link, tggp. Certainly there's some culturally induced rhetoric propelling this birth dearth fearfest (racial and religious concerns as well, as your link points out). Lot of 'brown baby' concerns out there, I suppose. I'd just like to stress that I'm concerned about the more basic motivations here, no matter what subset of humanity we choose to identify ourselves with. From my POV, it's more about vicarious immortality than anything else, dovetailing with the utilitarian schemes of the older towards the younger. This core selfishness is the engine that drives this ship, though its existence goes virtually unacknowledged, to the point that pronatalists can unflinchingly point the finger at those who would even dare question the plan, while at the same time holding their own pronatalist views as altruistic, and sacrosanct. It's the lack of honest conversation that bothers me; much like the universal 'hands off' approach to asking hard questions about religious faith bothers the so-called New Atheists. For it is my firm belief that, when people sincerely delve into the motives behind, and consequences of, having children, most of them will experience at least some degree of conflict with their own, humanitarian sensibilities. At least, that's my hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-354069516366024003.post-75590705211070654672008-06-19T21:09:00.000-07:002008-06-19T21:09:00.000-07:00There's been a big discussion recently about Kerry...There's been a big discussion recently about Kerry Howley's article on Mark Steyn type natalism cultural pessimists. I only feel like linking to one post about it, and I choose <A HREF="http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/06/libertarian-snarkfest-over-fertility.html" REL="nofollow">Steve Sailer</A>.TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.com